mathstodon.xyz is one of the many independent Mastodon servers you can use to participate in the fediverse.
A Mastodon instance for maths people. We have LaTeX rendering in the web interface!

Server stats:

2.8K
active users

#jollac2

0 posts0 participants0 posts today

How does using the #Jolla #JollaC2 (@jolla) with #SailfishOS for about a week as a daily driver now (with my old #iPhone at home as a backup)?

In general, it works much better than I had hoped after my experiences with other alternative #smartphone systems and it indeed is the first (and so far only) system that indeed works quite well. Also at around 285€ (commerce.jolla.com/products/jo) it isn't too expensive, so one can simply try it out.

There are a few limitations though:

* I am really missing biometric unlocking
* There is no predictive text input, so typing could be more comfy
* The UX experience sometimes feels strange (but no no-gos for me)
* It is not a snappy and fast device
* Audio quality is so-so
* GPS really needs a GPS signal, so no WIFI-based location

What is great:

* It is a real #Linux, so it has a #terminal, #sshd, you can e.g. use the #Nix package manager etc.
* Android apps are running in a container
* You can have different users to limit data access

Unfortunately there are nearly no high-quality native apps so far and the built-in ones are very basic (e.g. email).

But: The #Android compatibility layer is very good, the system comes with #Fdroid and #AuroraStore (#Google store front-end) pre-installed, so you can easily install practically all official Android apps.

Most apps work very well, some (especially banking) apps do not though as they complain that the system is rooted, so YMMV regarding the apps you need.

In general I am really happy with this system.

And: All the de-ggoglefied Android phones like the #Volla will always still remain just that: A more limited Android. SailfishOS offers a path towards powerful native (#Qt/#QML/#Cplusplus/#Python/you name it) based apps.

I am hoping that Jolla will provide a significantly more powerful device option and that some of the problems above will be solved.

But already now, even with the limitations above, if you are somewhat technically inclined (but without the need to fiddle with a command line unlike with the open mobile Linux distributions), want to get rid of #Google or #Apple for whatever reason, want a #Linux #smartphone, support a #European company from #Finland, this phone is really usable.

commerce.jolla.comJolla C2 Community Phone

Eilen harmitti, kun käytin koko päivän Jollan kanssa säätämiseen. Tänään taas ollut tyytyväinen, että tein niin ja on ollut aikaa puuhastella paljon muutakin.

Pidän luurista, vaikka käyttöjärjestelmässä onkin pieniä valuvikoja. Piti esimerkiksi käynnistää uudestaan, kun ei saanut yhteyttä Tidalin serveriin.

Jolla C2 saapui. Sailfish OS näyttää hyvältä. Ekana installoin OP-mobiilin, koska sitä nyt tarvitsee kaikkialla. Ei ollutkaan mikään triviaali homma.

Ensin piti asentaa microG, jonka avulla Google Play Servicestä riippuvaiset appit, kuten pankkiohjelmat, toimivat. Siihen löytyi onneksi helpot ajantasaiset ohjeet. Sitten installoin F-Droidin ja Aurora Storen ja annoin niille tarvittavia lupia. Latasin OP-mobiilin Aurora Storesta. Se käynnistyi... ja kaatui saman tien.

Kaivelu Sailfish-foorumeilta kertoi, että ongelma on uusimman OP-mobiilin kanssa, joten Aurora Storesta piti ladata aiempi versio, joka onneksi löytyi. Nyt pankkiapplikaatio käynnistyi. Kun yritin sitten yhdistää vanhan puhelimen kanssa Bluetoothilla, se ei onnistunutkaan, vaikka kaiuttimeen esimerkiksi sainkin Jollasta yhteyden.

Kiroilun jälkeen löysin onneksi pankin tunnuslukulistan. Sen avulla pääsin OP-mobiilissa eteenpäin, kunnes piti kirjoittaa nimi uudelle puhelimelle. Näppäimistö ei löytynyt. Verkkohaku kertoi tämän olevan välillä tapahtuva bugi käyttiksessä. Uudelleenkäynnistystä myöhemmin sain vihdoin verkkopankin asettelut kuntoon. Hurraa!

🎄 Happy Holidays from Jolla! ❄️

We've been busy elves here at Jolla, with lots of progress on Sailfish OS and updates for the community!

⚓ Jolla C2: Shipments continue, and we're working hard on VoLTE and camera improvements.
⚓ Sailfish 5.0: Rolling out to C2 with a major Gecko ESR91 upgrade!
⚓ Xperia 10 IV/V: Updates coming soon!
⚓ Salo AI Factory grand opening.
⚓ Mind2: Pre-order customers can now claim their devices!
⚓ Community News: Catch up on the latest app updates and more in our forum post.

👉 forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfis

Wishing you a joyous holiday season!

My #JollaC2 Community Edition phone is finally fully working and I'm spending a bit of time getting to know it.

I like the physical feel, although some aspects will take a little getting used to (big screen, rounded corners, notch). I do appreciate the subtle touches like "Privacy from Finland" printed on the camera bump. Captures the spirit of #SailfishOS.

Can't deny I'm thrilled to see #Gecko ESR91 running on it.

Now to spend some time getting the software set up just right!

Continued thread

There are problems with calls/texts but that should be fixed with the VoLTE update. Some people have already started using #JollaC2 as their daily driver: forum.sailfishos.org/t/feedbac

^ Long thread in the forum, but good read if you are interested in the device. And a new batch of C2 is supposed to be available soon! forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfis

Sailfish OS Forum · Feedback on Jolla C2I’m so close to having a new daily drive (C2). The only thing missing is VoLTE. All others what I want is niceties. Thank you Jolla!
Continued thread

Despite the size, the #JollaC2 is a nice piece of hardware. I kinda wish @jolla offered the purple version of "Reeder S19 Max Pro S" though... I lol-ed at the name, let's stick with C2.

Display is bright enough (well, Finland is kinda dark now for proper testing), speakers are loud enough, audio quality meh, but I'll probably be using headphones (with 3.5mm!!)

amazon.com.tr/Reeder-Ak%C4%B1l

Continued thread

Size matters.

Why do most manufacturers think Pro Max Plus Ultra XL is the best? Do most users think the same?

Why do I drop my phone so much? Yes I'm clumsy, but when I can't even reach the middle of the phone, there's no way I can properly balance it. #SailfishOS gestures help but only up to a point.

If only the #JollaC2 was the size of #JollaC...

@chikl

I'm just happy that someone is reading my toots 😆 Well, I'm glad you find my ramblings useful, and I'll be adding more observations as we go along.

To be honest the #JollaC2 (hardware) is a mixed bag. The good news is it looks like @jolla is also working on support for Sony Xperia 10 IV & V, and I *think* those will provide a better experience at a similar price point. I hope to do a comparison at some point.

docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Su

forum.sailfishos.org/t/release

forum.sailfishos.org/t/feedbac

Sailfish OS DocumentationSupported DevicesSailfish OS collaborative documentation platform (CoD)