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#fediask

I operate my own mail server. I followed the great instructions in "Run your own mail server" by @mwl

Last night I had the idea, that it would be nice to publish a public key for S/MIME in my #DNS like the stuff for #DKIM, #DMARC and #DANE. I would really like to automatically get #encrypted emails by other people.

Turns out, this idea isn't new, but #RFC8162 from 2017 is marked experimental.

Any news on this?

Please boost. I really would like new information about this.

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@jeremiah_ @elb #NNCPNET, the new #NNCP-based email network, now has a bidirectional, opt-in, Internet #email bridge! salsa.debian.org/jgoerzen/dock

This gates Internet email to/from NNCP. The bridge is off by default. It is a full participant in #SPF, #DKIM, #DMARC, and #TLS in both directions.

Yes, now you can get Internet email straight to your #RaspberryPi ! (And even without this, your Pis can email each other!)

GitLabIntroduction to the Internet Bridge · Wiki · John Goerzen / Docker container for email over NNCP · GitLabDebian Salsa Gitlab
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System Administration

Week 8, The Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, Part III

In this video, we look at ways to combat Spam. In the process, we learn about email headers, the Sender Policy Framework (#SPF), DomainKeys Identified Mail (#DKIM), and Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting and Conformance (#DMARC). #SMTP doesn't seem quite so simple any more...

youtu.be/KwCmv3GHGfc

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"The stats we collect for the #SpamAssassin project (mass-scan results from participating sites) have long shown that spammers are more consistent at making #SPF, #DKIM, and #DMARC correct than are legitimate senders. DMARC in particular has no discernible benefit for most senders, so it is a useless signal.

Rejecting mail based solely on authentication failures of those deeply flawed authentication methods does more harm than good."

jwz.org/blog/2025/03/dmarc-and

EDIT: h/t @grumpybozo

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@grumpybozo : I definitely am not angry with you (I very much agree).

Unfortunately many admins treat security solutions like they're a religion.

Some time age there was a hefty debate on a Dutch "mostly admins" site (tweakers.net, I'd have to look up the exact thread) about the "correct" sending and receiving MTA configurations. There was no agreement.

Microsoft even used to ignore SPF/DKIM/DMARC if the sender was in the "safe senders" list (which the user's address book defaults to). What could possibly go wrong (later MS corrected that).

The screenshot below is from part of security.nl/posting/766069/DMA (I wrote that Sept. 14, 2022).

Edited 23:36 UTC to add: {
arxiv.org/abs/2302.07287
Forward Pass: On the Security Implications of Email Forwarding Mechanism and Policy
Enze Liu, Gautam Akiwate, Mattijs Jonker, Ariana Mirian, Grant Ho, Geoffrey M. Voelker, Stefan Savage
}

#SPF#DKIM#DMARC
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@deepthoughts10 wrote: "email authentication like DMARC/SPF does one thing: it prevents impersonation of a specific domain (assuming policies are configured for reject or quarantine.)"

It does not even do that on my iPhone.

P.S. SPF was invented to prevent Joe Jobs (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job). Marketing idiots (including Bill Gates) said that it would kill spam. It killed forwarding instead.

@grumpybozo @jwz

#SPF#DKIM#DMARC
I just found out that Dovecot 2.4 is a crippled version of Dovecot 2.3: no more clustering support, the director function has been removed. If you want to do clustering now, you'll have to buy a Pro license.

https://doc.dovecot.org/2.4.0/installation/upgrade/2.3-to-2.4.html#removed-features

So, although I've used Dovecot for years, both private and for work, it seems like this is the end of the line for me.

At the same time I see what @Stalwart Labs can do. Yes, clustering, for one. And a whole lot more, including bayesian classification, analysis of DMARC reports and even a reputation database.

I'm really impressed by what it can do. Bit hesitant about the fact that it's still only version 0.11.5 though, smells alpha...

Looks like Stalwart is the future for me.

https://stalw.art/docs/cluster/overview

#Dovecot #Stalwart #E-mail #DMARC
doc.dovecot.org2.3 to 2.4 | Dovecot CEDovecot CE Documentation

dmarc-subject = %x52.65.70.6f.72.74 1*FWS %x44.6f.6d.61.69.6e.3a 1*FWS domain-name 1*FWS %x53.75.62.6d.69.74.74.65.72.3a 1*FWS domain-name 1*FWS %x52.65.70.6f.72.74.2d.49.44.3a msg-id

Yes, it allows newlines. Tough luck, @towo. No, Google, the D is a capital letter. No, Microsoft, don't fucking put a '[Preview]' in front.