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The really annoying one is going to be GitHub, since most things I'm at least already logged into (plush is amongst the services hit...), but they have some bank-tier session expiry.

Remember that resetting 2FA may *also* reset your recovery codes, for the next time Google #Authenticator decides to discard your data and risk locking you out of services you trusted it to help you secure access to.

#Passkeys in Microsoft #Authenticator will be generally available in mid-January 2025!

With the general availability of passkeys in Microsoft Authenticator, the need to have key restrictions set to use passkeys in Microsoft Authenticator will disappear.

So, by mid-January, passkeys will become a fully functional phishing-resistant authentication option equivalent to physical #FIDO2 keys. Attestation is already supported now, and in mid-January the preview phase will disappear and support without key restrictions will come.

Conversely, if you don't want to support passkeys in Microsoft Authenticator for some reason, you'll need to implement key restrictions and start actively blocking iOS and Android apps. If you plan to allow users to sign in with passkeys in Microsoft Authenticator, you don't need to do anything and it will be fully functional by mid-January.

And if you have conditional access policies that require passkey/FIDO2, users will automatically be prompted to register passkeys in Microsoft Authenticator.

Details can be found directly in the Microsoft 365 Message Center mc.merill.net/message/MC920300

Ever thought 30 seconds is a bit tight to type out a code from your #authenticator app?

There's a leeway typically two or three times that, not least because for your device and the server to agree on the OTP their clocks have to be in sync — and clocks are never perfectly in sync.

So, you can usually use an OTP for a minute or two after your app has changed to show a new one; and likewise, if you're living in the future, you can use an OTP a minute or two before it was meant to exist.

Almost all such systems use a standard called #TOTP – which stands for time-based one-time password, rather than Top of the Pops – so you can use any authenticator app with any service.

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@kuketzblog +9001%

Insbesondere da viele #Authenticator - #Apps entwender nur #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider - #Müll, #Bloatware, #Govware oder gänzlich unsicher sind.

  • Wir sind im Jahre 2024 und mit #TOTP, #HOTP & #PGP-verschlüsselten Nachrichten gibt's genug sichere & offene Standards für #2FA!

#AppZwang gehört verboten und ich hoffe @digitalcourage diesbezüglich mehr Druck macht, denn #Digitalzwang wird allzuoft als #Waffe gegen #Marginalisierte genutzt!

digitalcourage.de/digitalzwang

digitalcourage.deDigitalzwang | DigitalcourageDas gute digitale Leben setzt voraus, dass wir Digitalisierung nicht mit Überwachung gleichsetzen und immer auch Wahlfreiheit haben, analog zu bleiben
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@GrapheneOS @thomas @wonka Also I think the issues usually outweigh the benefits - at least when we look at individuals & devices owned by consumers vs. corporate #ITsec where locking down devices is seen as desireable!

  • It should be the sole discretion of the devices' owners whether or not such a feature should be used or accessible and it shpuld be disallowed to coerce people into "consenting" under threat of denied access.

Because for every "#LegitimateInterest" (i.e. #2FA #Authenticator) I can find a dozen reasons this "functionaloty" should be discontinued and considered malware.

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2/2 Des nouvelles de l'enfer #Microsoft...
L'enfer des deux dernières heures s'appelle Microsoft #Authenticator, une appli sur Android qui m'autorise à accéder aux comptes sur PC. Le truc est tellement sécurisé que c'est la croix et la bannière pour l'utiliser 🔐 ! (Pour une lambda comme moi, alors que je fais confiance aux hackers pour contourner l'obstacle.) Comme c'est une appli sur Android, j'ai d'abord essayé de l'utiliser sur mon smartphone, et j'ai bien tourné en rond. Ouf, avec le plan B, qui est ma tablette Android, ça marche 💡 !

In *2019*, Alex Weinert of Microsoft wrote in techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5:

«
    MFA had failed.

    [...]
    All Authenticators Are Vulnerable
    [...]
»

Today, as echoed in bleepingcomputer.com/news/micr, Microsoft still insists that using weak MFA is a good idea.

In azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog Microsoft writes (on August 15):

«
As recent research [1] by Microsoft shows that multifactor authentication (MFA) can block more than 99.2% of account compromise attacks, making it one of the most effective security measures available, today’s announcement brings us all one step closer toward a more secure future.
»

From that same article, "solutions" with (nearly as weak as SMS) "Microsoft Authenticator" is at the TOP of their list:

«
Organizations have multiple ways to enable their users to utilize MFA through Microsoft Entra:

• Microsoft Authenticator [...]
• FIDO2 security keys [...]
• Certificate-based authentication [...]
• Passkeys [...]
• Finally, and this is the least secure version of MFA, you can also use a SMS or voice approval [...]
»

From [1] (PDF) = query.prod.cms.rt.microsoft.co , no date of the "investigation period" to be seen *anywhere*, and one of the authors being Alex Weinert, more extreme percentages (approved by Microsoft's marketing dept):

«
Our findings reveal that MFA implementation offers outstanding protection, with over 99.99% of MFA-enabled accounts remaining secure during the investigation period. Moreover, MFA reduces the risk of compromise by 99.22% across the entire population and by 98.56% in cases of leaked credentials.
»

Dear reader: please stop buying Microsoft BS that completely ignores PhaaS.

To name a few examples:

🚨 "Experts agree [*] that setting up two-factor authentication (2FA) İs one of the most powerful ways to protect your account from getting hacked. However, hackers like COLDRIVER and COLDWASTREL may try to trick you into entering your second factor; we have seen attackers successfully compromise a victim who had enabled 2FA." - (PDF) accessnow.org/wp-content/uploa

[*] Not me. My tip is here: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

🚨 EvilGinx2: "Standalone man-in-the-middle attack framework used for phishing login credentials along with session cookies, allowing for the bypass of 2-factor authentication" - github.com/kgretzky/evilginx2 (there are more, like Modlishka, Muraena, CredSniper, EvilProxy (Phaas), NakedPages etc.)

🚨 Not even a fake website needed: bleepingcomputer.com/news/secu

🚨 From mrd0x.com/attacking-with-webvi:
«
Bypass 2FA
WebView2 also provides built-in functionality to extract cookies. This allows an attacker to extract cookies after the user authenticates into the legitimate website. This technique removes the need of having to spin up Evilginx2 or Modlishka but the obvious trade-off is that the user must execute the binary and authenticate.
»
In addition, from bleepingcomputer.com/news/secu:
«
"Yubikeys can't save you because you're authenticating to the REAL website not a phishing website."
mr.d0x
»
AND:
«
However, as mr.d0x admits and Microsoft pointed out in their response to our questions, this attack is a social engineering attack and requires a user to run a malicious executable.
»
Correct, but a local compromise does'nt protect you when you're using FIDO2 hardware keys or passkeys.

🚨 From 2022: microsoft.com/en-us/security/b:
«
A large-scale phishing campaign that used adversary-in-the-middle (AiTM) phishing sites stole passwords, hijacked a user’s sign-in session, and skipped the authentication process even if the user had enabled multifactor authentication (MFA).
»

🚨 "Phishing with Cloudflare Workers: Transparent Phishing and HTML Smuggling" - netskope.com/blog/phishing-wit

🚨 "New EvilProxy Phishing Service Allowing Cybercriminals to Bypass 2-Factor Security" - thehackernews.com/2022/09/new-

🚨 From europol.europa.eu/media-press/:
«
The investigation uncovered at least 40 000 phishing domains linked to LabHost, which had some 10 000 users worldwide.
[...]
LabRat was designed to capture two-factor authentication codes and credentials, allowing the criminals to bypass enhanced security measures.
»

🚨 "Security and Privacy Failures in Popular 2FA Apps" by Gilsenan et al. (USENIX 2023): usenix.org/conference/usenixse
The PDF can also be found here: github.com/blues-lab/totp-app- (Aegis was one of the least problematic apps, and don't use Authy).

This is what is wrong with weak MFA/2FA:

You
 o
/|\  [device + browser]
/ \ |
v
[login.microsoftonline-aitm.com]
|
v
[login.microsoftonline.com]

(no thanks to DV-certificates).

TECHCOMMUNITY.MICROSOFT.COMAll your creds are belong to us!Multi-factor Authentication (MFA) matters. 
#AitM#MitM#EvilProxy