The key role of your 'ums' and 'ahs'.
#linguistics #pragmatics #conversation
https://www.sapiens.org/language/linguistics-interjections-conversation-flow/
Your personality changes when you speak another language, but that’s not always a bad thing / The Conversation
Un bell'aticolo sul Principio di Relatività Linguistica, formulato da Whorf negli anni '30.
Languages don’t just allow us to communicate – they also shape our perception of what surrounds us, and ourselves.
#Whorf #Sapir
#languages #linguistics #sociolinguistics #pragmatics #languageLearning
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Re: Michael Harris • Language About Language
But then inevitably I find myself wondering whether a proof assistant, or even a formal system, can make the distinction between “technical” and “fundamental” questions. There seems to be no logical distinction. The formalist answer might involve algorithmic complexity, but I don’t think that sheds any useful light on the question. The materialist answer (often? usually?) amounts to just‑so stories involving Darwin, and lions on the savannah, and maybe an elephant, or at least a mammoth. I don’t find these very satisfying either and would prefer to find something in between, and I would feel vindicated if it could be proved (in I don’t know what formal system) that the capacity to make such a distinction entails appreciation of music.
Peirce proposed a distinction between corollarial and theorematic reasoning in mathematics which strikes me as similar to the distinction Michael Harris seeks between technical and fundamental questions.
I can’t say I have a lot of insight into how the distinction might be drawn but I recall a number of traditions pointing to the etymology of theorem as having to do with the observation of objects and practices whose depth of detail always escapes full accounting by any number of partial views.
On the subject of music, all I have is the following incidental —
Perhaps it takes a number theorist to appreciate it …
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Re: Michael Harris • Language About Language
And if we don’t [keep our stories straight], who puts us away?
One’s answer, or at least one’s initial response to that question will turn on how one feels about formal realities. As I understand it, reality is that which persists in thumping us on the head until we get what it’s trying to tell us. Are there formal realities, forms which drive us in that way?
Discussions like those tend to begin by supposing we can form a distinction between external and internal. That is a formal hypothesis, not yet born out as a formal reality. Are there formal realities which drive us to recognize them, to pick them out of a crowd of formal possibilities?
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Re: Michael Harris • Language About Language
I compared mathematics to a “consensual hallucination”, like virtual reality, and I continue to believe that the aim is to get (consensually) to the point where that hallucination is a second nature.
I think that’s called coherentism, normally contrasted with or complementary to objectivism. It’s the philosophy of a gang of co‑conspirators who think, “We’ll get off scot‑free so long as we all keep our stories straight.”
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Re: Michael Harris • Language About Language
There is a language and a corresponding literature treating logic and mathematics as related species of communication and information gathering, namely, the pragmatic‑semiotic tradition transmitted through the lifelong efforts of C.S. Peirce. It is by no means a dead language but it continues to fly beneath the radar of many trackers in logic and math today. Nevertheless, the resource remains for those who wish to look into it.
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This is one reason why I ignore mission statements when I make decisions.
"Retrieval-augmented systems can be dangerous medical communicators"
This article makes some great points about some limitations of RAG-based
systems.
"Unlike a human physician, RAG-based systems often retrieve sources and generate responses according to a highly literal and narrow interpretation of patient queries, serving to reinforce patient presuppositions (e.g., queries that contain implicit assumptions) and biases; ..."
New Paper!
Those of you interested in #psychology of #language, espeically #pragmatics, might be interested in our paper showing that "some" can be made to mean "one", or even "zero", in context -- with cool real-time mousetracking analyses, thanks to Wei Li's hard work (also with Hannah Rohde)
Regarding #translation , we have mostly been discussing the interface between 'the #digital' and #humans in terms of process guidelines and product quality in terms of a narrowed-down set of concepts such as adequacy and fluency. But what about concepts typically studied in the humanities such as #creativity, #pragmatics and #discourse? I have jotted down a few thoughts on how we would benefit from expanding on those on the #EMTnet blog: https://european-masters-translation-blog.ec.europa.eu/articles-emt-blog/pushing-boundaries-digital-translatology-some-notes-creativity-pragmatics-and-discourse-2025-01-09_en
What are your thoughts?
Happy to be part of this edited volume on #evolutionary #pragmatics - another great collaboration with @symbolicstorage
#CallForPapers Rencontres d’Automne de Linguistique Formelle in Lille (France), June 4-6th, 2025
#RALFe2025 invites contributions on formal #phonology, #morphology, #syntax, #semantics, #pragmatics (and their interfaces)
2-page abstracts due January 31st 2025
Thank @DiSC_uibk for having me at the #DiSCourseSeminar! It was a pleasure sharing insights on #LLMs and #Pragmatics with such an engaged audience. Missed it? Catch the talk here:
OLAT (video): https://lms.uibk.ac.at/auth/RepositoryEntry/4849139825/CourseNode/110919116153415
YouTube (slides+audio): https://youtu.be/yiUfexWOfuw?si=_I6m1DDL2GWXcSet
Did you miss our recent #DiSCourseSeminar with @nicolabrocca from @fachdidaktik on #LLMs and #Pragmatics: Insights from #Linguistics and #LanguageEducation? Watch it now on OLAT (video): https://lms.uibk.ac.at/auth/RepositoryEntry/4849139825/CourseNode/110919116153415 or on Youtube (slides and audio only): https://youtu.be/yiUfexWOfuw?si=_I6m1DDL2GWXcSet!
Excited to join the #DiscourseSeminar this Friday at 12:00 CET! I'll be discussing "'#LLMs and #Pragmatics: Insights from Linguistics and Language Education". Looking forward to sharing ideas with the DiSC community and engaging with your questions! More info: https://www.uibk.ac.at/en/disc/events/discourse-brocca/ #AI #Linguistics"@DiSC_uibk @fachdidaktik
Join us on Friday, 12:00 (CET) for another #DiscourseSeminar!
Topic: #LLMs and #Pragmatics: Insights from #Linguistics and #LanguageEducation
Speaker: @nicolabrocca (@fachdidaktik)
Location: Onsite at DiSC or online on Big Blue Button.
More info: https://www.uibk.ac.at/en/disc/events/discourse-brocca/
Excited to be part of the upcoming #DiSCourseSeminar! I'll be sharing insights on #LLMs and #Pragmatics, exploring connections between #PoliticLinguistics and #Promting and #LanguageEducation. Looking forward to engaging discussions on 29 November 2024! @fachdidaktik @DiSC_uibk @fachdidaktik
Learn more: https://www.uibk.ac.at/en/disc/events/discourse-brocca/
Toinen kokonaan uusi SEP-entry on Mooren ja Palazzolon Animal Communication, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/animal-communication/
“Go, A Reasonable Good Language”, ‘kokada’ (https://kokada.capivaras.dev/blog/go-a-reasonable-good-language/).
Via Lobsters: https://lobste.rs/s/z0vpdn/go_reasonable_good_language