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Marcus Green

Are #ChatGPT and co harming human intelligence?

This #Guardian article makes much reference to #IQ measures. In my view IQ is a measure of how good a person is at IQ tests. And I have great doubts as to the meaning of #Pisa testing.

Disclaimer: I was not good at IQ tests and I have a short attention spa ooh look a squirrel.

theguardian.com/technology/202

The Guardian · ‘Don’t ask what AI can do for us, ask what it is doing to us’: are ChatGPT and co harming human intelligence?By Helen Thomson
#edtech#llm#education
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@leX 🤘🏻

So if you're into dark atmospheric progressive rock, have a Qobuz subscription and want to have a listening peek at IQ's current tour setlist - there you go:
open.qobuz.com/playlist/313463

It's based on the current average setlist as seen on setlist.fm/stats/average-setli

Maybe I can make it to their concert end of April. Would be appropriate and heavy 'bout time; after 20 years no see...

Currently starting to dive into their recent opus "Dominion", acquired just today from iq-gep.bandcamp.com/album/domi

open.qobuz.comOpen Qobuz
#IQ#ProgressiveRock#ProgRock
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Anthony
Looks like a timely read:

Predatory Data
Eugenics in Big Tech and Our Fight for an Independent Future
https://bookshop.org/p/books/predatory-data-eugenics-in-big-tech-and-our-fight-for-an-independent-future-anita-say-chan/21312207

There's a nearly straight line from 20th century eugenics to 21st century big data and data science. Google, the bastion of big data, was founded by two Stanford graduate students; Stanford was founded by a eugenicist and instituted eugenics principles. Francis Galton--inventor of the regression analysis that forms the backbone of data science--was "hot or notting" London with a counter hidden in his pocket long before Harvard-age Zuckerberg recuperated the same with the favorite quantification technology of our day, computers.

"The measured life" is a eugenics concept. All these doohickeys that collect data with the promise of making your body a bit more "fit"? Eugenicist in origin. Eugenics is about "optimizing" the physical "fitness" of people. Apps that help you learn, make you more mentally "fit"? Also have origins in eugenics. Eugenics is also about "optimizing" the mental "fitness" of people. Hence the obsession with IQ.

This isn't to say you shouldn't take care of your body and mind in whichever ways you want. I do think it's important, though, to periodically reflect on, and ask yourself hard questions about, what's driving those efforts and what the goals really are. Part of understanding why eugenics thinking is resurging so hard and fast in the US is understanding its roots, where that type of thinking comes from. It's also important to reflect on where the apps and devices you use to achieve these goals come from. How many come directly or indirectly from Stanford, which was built by eugenicists to achieve eugenic goals, and its offshoots?

Trump and Musk are literally repeating themes from Francis Galton's eugenics out in the open now. They're confident they can get away with it without pushback because the ground was laid long ago. But eugenics didn't suddenly become bad again because coarse people started saying the quiet part out loud. It's always been bad thinking, bad science, and bad morality.

#DataScience #eugenics #BigData #fitness #US #IQ #Trump #Musk
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Felix Palmen :freebsd: :c64:

Got the results. So, my #IQ is not "good enough" for #mensa (ever so slightly). Which should be totally irrelevant to me because "join mensa" was never my objective. And still it feels somewhat stupid, because there *was* this "target score" attached to the test 🙈. (To maximize this "game score feeling", they even sent me a coupon code for a free re-test next year ... lol)

So, forget that weirdness for now and let's focus on the actual objective. I guess this result gives quite some plausibility to my suspicion about my son. Guess I'll ask a childrens doctor what to do next now!

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Felix Palmen :freebsd: :c64:

I took an #IQ #test last weekend.

Not "just for fun". I have reasons to suspect my little son *could* be "intellectually gifted". Testing a 3 year old is very elaborate and hardly reliable, so as a first step, I decided to have myself tested for plausibility.

I decided for a group test offered by #mensa, because that's a lot cheaper than individual testing by a psychologist. To my surprise, the questions mostly seemed pretty, well, simple. The real trouble solving them is the super short time limit. Only exception was a part testing your ability to memorize something. I "failed" that largely, which didn't actually surprise me. 😆

So, #intelligence (at least according to the model this mensa test seems to be based on) mostly means "average" logical thinking, but very fast? 🤔

Now waiting for the results to arrive...

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A.Stringer

"Basically, you could argue that, given how our system works, vast wealth indicates #lowintelligence, which would suggest low #IQ. It’s a bit of a leap, sure, but it would explain the current state of the world, rather than ‘a bunch of billionaire super-geniuses keep making massive errors that affect countless people’.

(2) Obsession with IQ: A reliable sign of low intelligence?
theneuroscienceofeverydaylife.

#science
#neuroscience

The Neuroscience of Everyday Life · Obsession with IQ: A reliable sign of low intelligence?By Dean Burnett
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David O'Brien

A wry observation.

I argued with my teachers in primary (elementary) school. Told them they were wrong. Didn't go down well in 1970s Britain.

Their response was to get an educational psychologist in who ... of course, did an #IQ test. Because 1970s Britain.

IQ tests are racist garbage.

The idea of being #neurodivergent was not really a thing back then.

I was right. I read entire dictionaries and encyclopaedia.

@afewbugs @RickiTarr

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