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kazé<a href="https://blahaj.social/@leah" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@leah</a> We’ve tested <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> for the <a href="https://piaille.fr/@ergol" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ergol</a> project and liked it a lot, but found it’s a rather specific approach — a bit like an instant mailing-list I guess?

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#discord</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhiCP8AQWs" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!</a><ul><li>It's worse than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IRC</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mumble</a> or even the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamSpeak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TeamSpeak</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Skype</a> for that matter.</li><li>It combines the disadvantages of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Forum</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#paywalled</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#documentation</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/voicechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#voicechat</a> with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> & Mumble & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a>) it's just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#InformationBlackhole</a>!</li></ul>I'm shure fecking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dread</a> has better moderation and I'd rather use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MicrosoftTeams</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Slack</a> cuz those at least have proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#moderation</a> tools.<ul><li>And I'd rather subscribe to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LKML</a> and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SaaS</a>!</li></ul>Case in point: I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfHost</a> all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GDPR</a>-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does everything but horrible to go with multiple smaller & good tools<ul><li>Public Chat? IRC!</li><li>Group Voicechat? Mumble.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Documentation</a>? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#mkDocs</a>-material.</li><li>1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.</li><li>E2EE Group Chats? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltaChat</a>.</li><li>E2EE Calls? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a>.</li><li>Filehosting? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IPFS</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BitTorrent</a>, oshi.at, etc. ...</li><li>…</li></ul>Check <a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@alternativeto</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@european_alternatives</a> for options.

Yorgos Saslis<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@blaise" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@blaise</a> <a href="https://toot.radicle.xyz/@radicle" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@radicle</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@zulip" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@zulip</a> Fully agree! Hard to go back to the messiness of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#slack</a> / <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#discord</a> after indulging in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> ! 😅

David Lord :python:Discord's latest update just put up a floating ad covering part of the UI. You have to watch a video ad, or hover over it long enough for a initially invisible dismiss button to show up. I've been wanting to switch Pallets over to <a href="https://zulip.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://zulip.com</a>, this seems like a good reason to. <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Discord</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a>

LavX NewsRevolutionizing Team Communication: Zulip's Next-Gen Permission SystemZulip has transformed its permission management system, moving from a rigid role-based structure to a dynamic group-based model. This transition not only enhances user experience for administrators bu...<a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/revolutionizing-team-communication-zulip-s-next-gen-permission-system" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://news.lavx.hu/article/revolutionizing-team-communication-zulip-s-next-gen-permission-system</a><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#news</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/OpenSource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSource</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/GroupPermissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GroupPermissions</a>

thecedarprinceBlueSky folks! I run a <a href="https://beta.argyle.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> server for some maths & public health <a href="https://beta.argyle.social/tags/research" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#research</a> collaborators + mentees. 🤓🧪Anyone interested in designing a logo and/or banner for the server? I could probably only pay b/w 25 - 50 USD.I'd love to highlight original, non-AI artwork. 🎨<a href="https://beta.argyle.social/tags/artcommissions" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#artcommissions</a> <a href="https://beta.argyle.social/tags/academicsky" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#academicsky</a>

o-o.toolsHello Fediverse! o-o.tools is a new hosted service for software teams. We are striving to pull together the best open source alternatives to the big players (Github, Slack, Trello, Confluence, etc) and have bundled Forgejo, Zulip, Vikunja, and An Otter Wiki into one private integrated service. Check us out:<a href="https://o-o.tools/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://o-o.tools/</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Forgejo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Forgejo</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Vikunja" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vikunja</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OtterWiki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OtterWiki</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Github" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Github</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Slack</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Trello" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Trello</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Confluence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Confluence</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Programming</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SoftwareDevelopment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SoftwareDevelopment</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Coding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Coding</a>

CarlHowdy Fediverse - I'm looking for some folks I can discuss running an online community using <a href="https://kind.social/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a> instead of <a href="https://kind.social/tags/slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#slack</a> or <a href="https://kind.social/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#discord</a> and what their experiences have been. Is anyone around willing to share their experiences so I can help improve the <a href="https://kind.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#linux</a> on <a href="https://kind.social/tags/riscv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#riscv</a> community experience?

Bhante Subharo :xmpp:<a href="https://axbom.me/users/axbom" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@axbom</a> I too have been doing some similar evaluating of alternatives. I would recommend adding:- <a href="https://c.im/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a> (Slack, <a href="https://c.im/tags/Mattermost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mattermost</a> competitor) More info: <a href="https://c.im/@sbb/114034480079879818" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://c.im/@sbb/114034480079879818</a> - <a href="https://c.im/tags/Conversations" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conversations</a>/ <a href="https://c.im/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Gajim</a>/ <a href="https://c.im/tags/Prosody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Prosody</a> (is similarly E2E encrypted, but additionally federated, unlike Signal), this is my <a href="https://c.im/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a> "stack" at present (more info: <a href="https://c.im/@sbb/114032786446300932" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://c.im/@sbb/114032786446300932</a> ) - <a href="https://c.im/tags/Deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Deltachat</a> (is federated, unlike <a href="https://c.im/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a>) More info: <a href="https://c.im/@sbb/114043962394278098" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://c.im/@sbb/114043962394278098</a> - <a href="https://c.im/tags/flarum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#flarum</a> , a forum similar to Discourse, but will run on a <a href="https://c.im/tags/RaspberryPi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RaspberryPi</a>, unlike Discourse - <a href="https://c.im/tags/calibre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#calibre</a>-web for your ebook collection - <a href="https://c.im/tags/shiori" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#shiori</a>, for private cloud bookmarks

Andreas Bulling<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@dangoodin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@dangoodin</a> I can most highly recommend <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a> <a href="https://zulip.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://zulip.com/</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/oss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#oss</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a>

Andreas Bulling<a href="https://soc.schuerz.at/profile/jakob" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jakob</a> Ich habe vor ein paar Jahren auch mal mit <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matrix</a> gekämpft. Cooles Konzept, aber zumindest damals eine Katastrophe zum Aufsetzen und Konfigurieren.Hat sich anscheinend nicht wirklich verbessert.Ich kann <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a> empfehlen.

Andreas Bulling<a href="https://mastodon.online/@robertmx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@robertmx</a> I can most highly recommend <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a><a href="https://zulip.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://zulip.com/</a>

Bryan Redeagle :bc:Explored Zulip further. There's a lot to like about it. It's very well built, and the documentation is fantastic. I really appreciate all the self hosting and scaling information.My issue is the UI. I am okay with it, and could use it no problem. I'm looking for parents to use it though, and they're going to have trouble. Everything is too small and noisy.<a href="https://beige.party/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a>

Bryan Redeagle :bc:I've been taking a look at Zulip. There's a lot to like about it. I especially appreciate that it's fully open source, and they have a lot of good documentation on self-hosting. The topic concept makes it feel like a mix between Slack and a forum. Or like email, but you only get emails from select people.<a href="https://beige.party/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chat</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a> <a href="https://beige.party/tags/SelfHosted" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SelfHosted</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cwebber</a> yes, and we already have options for that:<ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IRC</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OMEMO</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Zulip</a>, etc. for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chat</a>.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JitsiMeet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#JitsiMeet</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebCall</a> and other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebRTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebRTC</a>-based comms.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumbke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mumbke</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SIP</a> and other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VoIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VoIP</a> solutions.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OnionShare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OnionShare</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Wormhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Wormhole</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/oshi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#oshi</a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BitTorrent</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IPFS</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Filesharing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Filesharing</a>.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nextcloud" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Nextcloud</a> et. al. for collaboration.</li></ul>...

Hans<a href="https://fosstodon.org/@bert_hubert" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bert_hubert</a> <a href="https://social.edu.nl/@MishaVelthuis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@MishaVelthuis</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nl/@LaAckxtra" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LaAckxtra</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bit.nl/@BIT" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@BIT</a> <a href="https://www.bit.nl/email" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.bit.nl/email</a>"Het e-mailplatform is volledig redundant en loadbalanced uitgevoerd, en bovendien gespreid over twee datacenters. De loadbalancing maakt het mogelijk om eventuele storingen op te vangen en onderhoud te verrichten"Met deltachat via mail ben je heel eind op weg. Aan welke chat oplossing zit je dan te denken? <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matrix</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#xmpp</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> of <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a> (geen E2E). Het grote probleem is de uitwisselbaarheid met behoud van de E2E.

Jons Mostovojs<a href="https://tilde.zone/@xandra" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@xandra</a> I'm so happy that someone's doing what I wanted to[1]. I'd be happy to write as well as contribute during review process if someone needs contributions.Sadly, I've decided to post what I have worked on for <a href="https://social.doma.dev/tags/FlakeMag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FlakeMag</a> in my blog, but in the spirit of 5th code jam[2], I could write a how-to article about setting up swarms of virtual machines on <a href="https://social.doma.dev/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a>.Alternatively, I can write an entry-level article about how to archive web pages and scrape stuff easily with <a href="https://social.doma.dev/tags/python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#python</a> (ugh) and/or <a href="https://social.doma.dev/tags/typescript" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#typescript</a>.Even more alternatively, as the most "good-interenetey" option, I can write an article about how and why to use <a href="https://social.doma.dev/tags/zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#zulip</a> for team and community management: guidelines, topic structures, etc.[1]: <a href="https://social.doma.dev/@jonn/112202043937657180" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://social.doma.dev/@jonn/112202043937657180</a> [2]: <a href="https://32bit.cafe/~xandra/events/codejam5/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://32bit.cafe/~xandra/events/codejam5/</a>

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