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#secondordercybernetics

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Claudia Westermann<p>The special issue of Constructivist Foundations features four target articles that emerged from the 60th Anniversary Meeting of the American Society for Cybernetics – each accompanied by five to seven peer commentaries and the authors' respective responses to these. </p><p><a href="https://constructivist.info/20/2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">constructivist.info/20/2</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Register for free on the journal's website. With a voluntary subscription before April 22, get a print copy of the special issue per post.</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/Cybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SecondOrderCybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SecondOrderCybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/Systems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Systems</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/DesignResearch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DesignResearch</span></a></p>
Joost Rekveld<p>Glad that I found a copy of this tome by Bernard Scott, long-time collaborator of Gordon Pask.</p><p><a href="https://assemblag.es/tags/BernardScott" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BernardScott</span></a> <a href="https://assemblag.es/tags/GordonPask" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GordonPask</span></a> <a href="https://assemblag.es/tags/SecondOrderCybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SecondOrderCybernetics</span></a> <a href="https://assemblag.es/tags/SystemsThatMatter" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SystemsThatMatter</span></a></p>
Jef Allbright<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@Harishjosev" class="u-url mention">@<span>Harishjosev</span></a></span> </p><p>Your mention of <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/SecondOrderCybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SecondOrderCybernetics</span></a> made my day! </p><p>I&#39;ve been arguing for over twenty years (to anyone who would listen, and almost no one gets it) that the key to the perennial paradoxes of <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Consciousness" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Consciousness</span></a>, <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/SelfIdentity" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>SelfIdentity</span></a>, and <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/FreeWill" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>FreeWill</span></a>—and fundamental to a coherent <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Metaethics" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Metaethics</span></a>—is understanding the relationship of the observer to the observed, especially when the observer _is_ the observed.</p><p>Now I have some reading to catch up on.</p>
Harishjosev<p>The main issue with ontological models is that they don’t make sense because they don’t include the observer. And if you do include the observer, they make even less sense. <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SecondOrderCybernetics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SecondOrderCybernetics</span></a></p>
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