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Fifth grader 1: I don't think I get that reference.
Fifth grader 2: I don't think it is a reference. It's just weird.

I swear they are more sophisticated than I ever was at that age.

@futurebird I keep hearing cultural critics and educators talking about the young as if they are intellectually stunted in some unprecedented and alarming way (and they always say they know the reason: it's the pandemic closures, it's smartphones, it's social media, it's that they don't read books, it's pop culture)

and I think, I don't know, maybe they're talking about the ones I haven't met. The kids I've known seem all right.

@mattmcirvin

Yeah, the kids seem fine. It's the search engines that make me sound like a cranky old person "In my day these sort of results would have never been first. In my day you could search for things and not get funneled into shopping... or LIED TO obviously by a babbling computer... " *wanders off muttering*

Matt McIrvin

@futurebird Rich people seem worse than they've been in decades. They were never great but for Christ's sake, they've lost all sense of fake propriety. That's my biggest complaint.

@mattmcirvin

Yeah used to be that it was easier to pretend to admire them, or they put more effort into being "morally impressive" at least on the surface.

Now they just think the money itself is impressive ... but it's not.

Go build 200 libraries or something. jeeeez

@futurebird @mattmcirvin i really do wonder where that cultural shift came from

seems to have happened (in cycles?) in previous civilizations too?
@futurebird @mattmcirvin ...or maybe that rancid meme about hard times and hard men has some truth to it if you limit "men" to the ruling elite... but i don't see any real correspondence with good and bad times beyond "bad men make bad times"...

@apophis @futurebird Rich people are WAY RICHER than they were a few decades ago, in comparative terms. A smaller number of them control a much larger portion of the total economic product, and have tremendous power, and being in this position seems to be absolutely toxic to the human brain.

The situation is more like the late 19th century, the Gilded Age. And the rich people of that time were buck wild.

@mattmcirvin @apophis @futurebird a standard feature of H. sapiens. like monocrop agriculture. Helped us spread across planet so fast? highly unstable? Time will tell.

@mattmcirvin

> and being in this position seems to be absolutely toxic to the human brain

You can't imagine how much ..

@apophis @futurebird