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@clacke
I'm currently being updated to allow a parameter. Without a parameter the behaviour is unchanged.

Currently possible parameters are:

Help - print this message

LR - plot left-to-right instead of top-down

(*)Spine - Plot this toot and parents in a spine on the left, and descendents/replies streaming rightwards

(*)Down - Plot only descendents

(*)Context - Plot the parents without replies, and all descendents

Options marked (*) are not yet implemented

@ColinTheMathmo Is there a realistic hope that we'll see Spine? That feels like it would be a real jump in usability.

@clacke I've got it working semi-automatically on my local machine, but I've had problems getting it to work on the 'bot.

I'll put it on my queue of things to look at sooner rather than later.

Do you have a specific discussion I can use for local testing?

I'm guessing this one:

mathstodon.xyz/statuses/111124

@clacke OK, this might actually work now:

Calling @Chartodon Spine ...

Now I need to make sure I didn't break anything else ...

@clacke (And no, I don't have any unit tests ... it's still all an experimental hack.)

@ColinTheMathmo That is like the inverse of Donald Knuth's "[note that the above code has only been formally verified to be correct, I haven't actually tried it]". =)

"Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it."

-- Donald Knuth, 1977 memo "Notes on the van Emde Boas construction of priority deques: An instructive use of recursion"

www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~k…

www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu Knuth: Frequently Asked Questions

@clacke I used to work in soft-realtime safety-critical software, so this was a well-known and well-worn clip.

We had to balance formal reasoning, semi-formal reasoning, loose arguments, and careful testing, and it was surprisingly interesting and satisfying.

But in those cases we knew in advance what we were trying to achieve, and specifying that formally, or semi-formally, was part of the job.

In this case I've hacked together something to see if it might be useful, and it's grown into a thing that people use.

Software, eh?

(Also, I'm interacting with reverse engineered interfaces to software I neither understand nor control. So ... yeah. Fun.)

@ColinTheMathmo My number one advice to my younger self: "Your prototype *will* be put into production"

@clacke I think that should go in my toot rotation. I have a script which every day takes the next item off a list, toots it, then puts it back on the bottom.

I'll add that. Do you want to be credited? If so, how?

Example:

"My number one advice to my younger self: Your prototype *will* be put into production"
-- Paraphrased from mathstodon.xyz/@clacke@librane

@ColinTheMathmo

Your chart is ready, and can be found here:

solipsys.co.uk/Chartodon/11112

Things may have changed since I started compiling that, and some things may have been inaccessible.

In particular, the very nature of the fediverse means some toots may never have made it to my instance, in which case I can't see them, and can't include them.

The chart will eventually be deleted, so if you'd like to keep it, make sure you download a copy.

@clacke Thank you.

After a few weeks of trying it randomly I'll announce it properly.

Thanks for the motivation to get it done. It wasn't so bad ... the other options will be harder.