Jon Awbrey<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://qoto.org/@Kihbernetics" class="u-url mention">@<span>Kihbernetics</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@Harishjosev" class="u-url mention">@<span>Harishjosev</span></a></span> </p><p>Had many discussions with Howard <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Pattee" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Pattee</span></a> 15 or 20 years ago on the old Organization, Complexity, Autonomy (OCA) List and later on the Peirce List, but almost always felt like we were talking past each other. Usually this happens due to a disconnect between dyadic and triadic frames of reference, often stemming from a failure to appreciate the consequences of <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/TriadicRelationIrreducibility" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>TriadicRelationIrreducibility</span></a>, a core concept in <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Peirce" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#<span>Peirce</span></a>&#39;s theories of signs and inquiry.</p>