i'm not gung-ho about UBI anymore, but i will say this: you will not understand UBI until you understand the difference between work and employment

the same goes for any actual post-capitalist economy, as well: work is not the same thing as employment. there is plenty of work that never gets done because nobody's employing people to do it

remove *employment* from the list of things you need to survive, and you'll see a lot more *work* get done

any economic system that assumes most people don't intrinsically want to do meaningful work is empirically false and should not be taken seriously

"yeah but people are lazy and don't want to work unless we threaten them" — this myth originates from shitty employers, whom nobody wants to work for

@amydentata years ago I translated an interview with one of Germany's richest people on UBI (which he is a strong proponent of, though more from a libertarian slant than a socialist one)

In it he brings up that whenever he talks about the subject people go "well but won't everyone just be lazy and not do ANYTHING" and said his response to that is always "would you?"

Which immediately murders that line of argument

@outie UBI is definitely more libertarian than socialist, as it retains the private sector and does not innately do anything to break up consolidation of capitalist power


@amydentata @outie I recently read this: medium.com/institute-for-the-f

Finally I don't have to be shy in my proposing a non-monetary universal basic *resource* income! XD :D

Like here ic.org/directory/the-utopia-fo

(I've always thought UBI was just perpetuating the existing system of money, but everyone was so adamant about it I just kind of sheepishly went along. Now they're starting to agree :')

(I think a lot of people still want money, though. I wonder if/when they'll talk about resource economy)

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